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We consider the business of making and selling fine cigars as a Gentleman's business and nearly all of our customers are Gentlemen.
Unfortunately, however, some customers are not and take our generous payment policy to their advantage and abuse our trust. Fortunately there are not many and we will list them on this page, case by case for your appreciation.

Alex came to visit us at the factory. He liked our cigars and bought some boxes, telling us that he was the owner of a cigar store in the US. We gave him our wholesale price list and he ordered, we sent the cigars, but he never paid. Below is our email exchange on this subject.

Amount  name email observation: Country
$ 573.00 Alexcigars.com alexcigars1@bellsouth.net refuses to pay USA
$ 573.00 Selectivecigars.com contact@selctivecigars.com no reply USA
$ 806.50 Tony Skulitz one1wizard@comcast.net says he has no money USA
$ 80.45 Charles Schmidt sabre360@aol.com unjustified Chargeback USA
$ 14.95 Michael Tyl greendiamond@msn.com unhappy over card processing USA

 

ALEX CIGARS
OK, I guess that you have no intention to pay for the cigars you ordered. Here is what we will do.
Monday we will put you on our public blacklist on our website with your name, email address, the name of Selective cigars with full address so all our visitors can see your indifference. The page will have a button which will open a single payment secure site in case you still decide to pay us the $573.00 Your ref. is 2024. In this case we will take you off this list as we have done with others previously.
 
We also will inform the 500 members of our VegasdeSantiago Group of you not keeping your commitments with the same details and I would not be surprised if some of them wouldn't send you appropriate mails and advice.
 
We now will leave you to your karmic destiny and expect life to teach you one day to keep your commitments.
 
Rudy
VEGAS SANTIAGO SA.

 
Hola, I just called the number you gave me for Mr. Harris and I was informed that you have the cigars and that you should pay for them.
 
Well, what are you going to do? Do we, a small company in the "third world", have to write it off as a bad debt for a company from the "richest nation" on earth? Amazing how the US seem to have changed these last years.
 
Rudy
VEGAS SANTIAGO SA.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 10:29 PM
Subject: Re: VdS cigars - ORDEN 2024 A EMS

 
 
we have a legal agreement on any bills from that store. he has your cigars and i will help to get your funds.Legal agreement. he was a partner of the store before  i sold my part to him. so  this is not a New bill

-------------- Original message from <sales@vegassantiago.com>: --------------

Hola, thank you for telling us that you sold the store. However we do not see any relevance in this information.
 
You ordered our cigars and we shipped them to the address you specified. So you are responsible for the payment.
 
We repeat the different key phrases from our previous mails.
 
- Please do not make us chase after the payment.
- somehow we feel abused
- We consider the trade in cigars a gentlemen business.
 
Therefore we would appreciate that YOU contact 678-417-9505 robert harris
and advise him to pay the amount due, if this was part of your sales contract.
 
Thank you very much
Rudy
VEGAS SANTIAGO SA.
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 7:37 PM
Subject: Re: VdS cigars - ORDEN 2024 A EMS

 
 
i have sold the store to robert harris. jan.08 mr harris is fully aware of his bill. 678-417-9505 robert harris

-------------- Original message from <sales@vegassantiago.com>: --------------

Hola, we still do not seem to have received your payment.
Would you please make sure that this matter is settled soon. Somehow we feel abused.
Thank you
Rudy
VEGAS SANTIAGO SA.
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 2:46 AM
Subject: Re: VdS cigars - ORDEN 2024 A EMS

 
 

i spoke to robert harris and informed him that cigars were received from you. he informed me that this would be taken care of.
 

-------------- Original message from <sales@vegassantiago.com>: --------------

Hola, please don't make me chase after the payment, I called and they didn't know anything about Vegas Santiago cigars.
Please advise the people concerned that this shipment still remains unpaid.
If there is any problem, please advise.
 
Thanks,
Rudy
VEGAS SANTIAGO SA.
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 3:41 PM
Subject: Re: VdS cigars - ORDEN 2024 A EMS

 
 

please contact Dan Evans or Robert Harris at Selective Cigars 678-417-9505  this matter will be resolved
 

-------------- Original message from <sales@vegassantiago.com>: --------------

Hola, controlling our orders we find your order still to remain unpaid.
Please send a check for the amount of $ 573.00 now to our rep. in the US
 

BBD - Mike Butler

5049 Vale Lane   

Birmingham, Al 35244

USA

 

Or if you prefer to pay by credit card go to our secure single payment system here:

http://vegassantiago.com/payment.htm

Your ref. is 2024

 

Thank you very much

Rudy

VEGAS SANTIAGO SA.

 

 
Hola, your cigars were sent yesterday by express mail tracking no. EE015564860CR and should arrive next week. You can check at the US postal service the forthcoming of this shipment in a couple of days at http://www.usps.com
 
Payment as agreed. We thank you for your order and are looking forward to a good business relation. We will do what we can to always satisfy your wishes.
 
Greetings from Costa Rica
Rudy
VEGAS SANTIAGO SA.

 
ORDEN 2024 A EMS

                      
VEGA ORIGINALES-
Laguito#1 natural 1 caja de 25. 
Laguito#1 maduro 1 caja de 25.
Robusto natural 1 caja de 10  
Robusto maduro 1 caja de 10  
Toro natural 1 caja de 10  $
Toro maduro 1 caja de10  $

PUROS EDITION-ESPECIAL  
Laguito#1 natural 1 caja de 25 
Laguito#1 maduro 1 caja de 25 
Toro natural 1 caja de 25         
Toro maduro 1 caja de 25        
Torpedo natural 1 caja de 10   
Torpedo maduro 1 caja de 10    
 
VDS - CHAMAN                                 
Laguito#1 natural 1 Caja de 20   
Toro natural 1 caja de 20        
 
Don Luis- Secretos del Maestro
Torpedo natural 1 caja de 20     
Torpedo D.O. 1 Caja de 20     
 Robusto natural 1 Caja de 20 
 Robusto D.O. 1 caja de 20 
 
Palma - Shortfiller
1 Caja de 10 Torpedo ( 5 natural y 5 maduro) Free of charge
 
TOTAL US $ 573.00
 
Envie por favor para EMS:
 
Selective Cigars -
3300 Peachtree Ind. Blvd. Suite I
Duluth, Georgia 30096
USA
 

PAY BY C.O D OR CREDIT CARD
    678-417-9505
  
alexcigars1@bellsouth.net
 

 

 


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